drieuxster: They Did What?

drieuxster (

drieuxster) wrote,
@ 2007-04-24 10:05:00

Entry tags:

religion, they_did_what, war

They Did What?
Oh My God!!! Talk About The Most BRUTAL of All Stab In The Back Plot By The Radical Left Wing Anti-Military, Anti-War, Anti-American Clique of Shrill Hysterical Angry Radical Extremists:

Wiccans who served in the U.S. military will be allowed to have their faith's pentacle emblem engraved on government-issued tombstones and memorials under a legal agreement announced today with the Department of Veterans Affairs.

Roberta Stewart of Fernley, Nev., one of the plaintiffs, had sought a pentacle-inscribed memorial plaque from the VA for her husband, Nevada National Guard Sgt. Patrick D. Stewart, who was killed in action in 2005 when his helicopter was shot down in Afghanistan.

"I have waited for this day for so long," Stewart said. "Today I have relief, comfort and happiness in knowing this a quest for religious freedom has prevailed."
[ cf Wiccans to add pentacle to veterans' tombstones ]

HELLO!!!!!

HELLLO!!!!

HELLLO IN THERE DOD!!!!!

Don't you Freaks in the Five Sided Puzzle Palace, hum, the Pentagon, hum, KNOW that we ARE MORE AT WAR than Ever Before in this Time of Transferring the Tax Liabilities Unto The Unborn, and hence that we must Support the Greatest Of All Holy Crusades To Protect Us From Those Who Would Destroy Our White Christian America.....

OH NO!!!

Talk about Gay Marriage Only Advocating Evil Doing Evil Doers....

But Has the Pentagon FALLEN to Gay HomoZeXual Pirate Canadianists????

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	You're an ass. (Anonymous) 2007-04-25 01:36 pm UTC (link)
	Does freedom of religion only mean YOUR religion, douchebag? (Reply to this) (Thread)

	Re: You're an ass. drieuxster 2007-04-25 05:20 pm UTC (link)
	I love the bold and brave... Or is this a Wiccan with no sense of Elan??? (Reply to this) (Parent)(Thread)(Expand)

Re: You're an ass. -

dr_strych9, 2007-04-25 06:59 pm UTC (Expand)

Re: You're an ass. -

drieuxster, 2007-04-25 07:02 pm UTC (Expand)

Re: You're an ass. -

dr_strych9, 2007-04-25 07:04 pm UTC (Expand)

Re: You're an ass. -

drieuxster, 2007-04-25 07:06 pm UTC (Expand)

Re: You're an ass. - (Anonymous), 2007-04-26 07:30 pm UTC (Expand)

Perverse and Paranoid
(Anonymous)
2007-04-25 03:31 pm UTC (link)

It's belief in salvation through the blood sacrifice of Jesus that strikes me as the most perverse and barbaric notion in today's religious world. It seems like child abuse to teach kids that Jesus died for them--adult Christians, like this blogger, seem warped by that nonsensical doctrine. Nature religion seems like a very healthy antidote to that sort of barbarity, and a star seems preferable to an emblem of Roman capital punishment.

"Gay HomoZeXual Pirate Canadianists"? Right. Get the straight jacket ready.

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Re: Perverse and Paranoid
(Anonymous)
2007-04-25 06:36 pm UTC (link)

Mr. P&P,

Get a clue.

Please!

Soon?

Pretty plz??

With Boogers on Top??

When will you learn that only us Anti-non-caucasian, anti-non-christian, anti-non-heteros, anti-anti-war, anti-anti-bush/deity, anti-anti-american-monarchy are suitable for citizenry?? When will you learn that ANYTHING else leads down a path where the EVIL Liberals (we also call them "wiccans", "Jews", "Buddhists", "Hidnus", and pretty much ANYTHING other than "Christian") will send evil Islamic types back to NYC and DC to repeat their evil.

It's all part of the great Bush's master plan to save us.

"Wiccans. The Other White Meat. They're NOT just for Breakfast Any More."

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	Re: Perverse and Paranoid drieuxster 2007-04-25 06:43 pm UTC (link)
	would this be a good time to ask if you have Accepted the Divinity of Dubya, as the argument from intelligent design demands? And have you Asked Dubya to be your personal lord and savior??? (Reply to this) (Parent)

snowcalla
2007-04-25 06:27 pm UTC (link)

I am straight, married, and I'm on the far right politically.

I'm also Pagan. And a veteran of the USAF who was *over there* in the first Gulf War.

And because I am on the far right, I am a strong supporter of the United States Constitution. All of it. I don't pick and choose which parts of it I support.

Generally speaking, I think the Federal Governemnt needs to stay out of my private life, including my religious life. Which is one more reason I applaud the outcome of the settlement.

As for how we treat our veterans who have died in service to our country...if they want an engraving of a pile of dog shit on thier grave marker, I say we give it to them.

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and your issue here is what????

drieuxster
2007-04-25 06:42 pm UTC (link)

ok, so why am I an ass hole????

I too served... so we can take that part out of the matrix here...

I had the fun in Boot Camp that they did not have a specification for Anglo-Catholic, nor for Taoists, so I think I went with GI Protestant or 'episcopalean' - which is a polite way of saying "almost atheist" if you are aware of Hanoi Annie Coulter's take on the True Holy War...

As for Gender Preference and Tax Deduction status, gosh, not too sure those are things folks really want to be flaunting in Public, merely because our Society Mandates that one can have only ONE TAX DEDUCTION on the First Wife, and that because the Blue Belly Bayonet Wielding Bible Burners do not accept the Divine Will That only Bishops are limited to having but One Wire.

Things are like tough all over...

As for the constitution, do you really believe that piece of failed pre-911 Liberalism is still operable? And has not been turned into an unintelligible holy text beyond the reach of mere Mortal Man? Come On, don't you get it that the Whole World Changed on 09/11/2001 and now we have a War President, who may soon pick the new War Lord, to help protect us....

Don't you understand that you are either on the Side of The President, or you are in league with Satan...

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Re: Clarification, Plz -

drieuxster, 2007-04-25 07:01 pm UTC (Expand)

Re: and your issue here is what???? -

snowcalla, 2007-04-28 05:19 am UTC (Expand)

Re: and your issue here is what???? -

drieuxster, 2007-06-12 11:06 pm UTC (Expand)

Well said.
(Anonymous)
2007-04-25 06:46 pm UTC (link)

> I am straight

Can your children PROVE that statement??

> I'm on the far right politically

The "New-Improved" kind of far-right?? Of the NeoConClownCarCrew-type??

> I am a strong supporter of the United States Constitution.

Pish-posh.

We don't need no stinkin' constitution. The present "leader" of the far-right-neo-con-clown-car-crew told me so, in deeds, if not in words. That first, fourth, fifth, eight, tenth and fourteenth-amenedment P B.S. stuff is sooooo yesterday.

And, until 7-Nov-2008, admire the 25th, cuz it be goin' away soon...

> All of it.

And ** I ** say "too 18th century." These are modern times. Dangerous times. Security-minded times. Tolerating dissent leads to security violations, which we' MUST NOT allow. Far better to ensure security than liberty. Ask anyone. It's common knowledge. Everybody says so.

> Which is one more reason I applaud the outcome of the settlement.

And you're probably one of the They-Them-Those-types who advocate allowing SENATORS (for Bush's sake, SENATORS!) to take their "oath" of office on a Quaran!! What kinna oath is EVER specified on such a "book"?? Can you imagine? What would the FOUNDING FATHERS say! They're rolling in their graves, I tell you ROLLING IN THEIR GRAVES!

> As for how we treat our veterans
> who have died in service to our country

So long as they've got a friendly "Sieg Bush" next to the Steaming Pile, all will be well with the monarchy.

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snowcalla, 2007-04-28 05:24 am UTC (Expand)

Re: Well said. -

drieuxster, 2007-05-02 01:18 am UTC (Expand)

	dr_strych9 2007-04-25 07:02 pm UTC (link)
	Of course, I think we ought to sell off all the military cemeteries, build high-density public housing on the recovered land, and start sending back human remains to their families, cremated, in sealed, aluminum canisters. Maybe with a nice Chinese-made American flag sticker on the lid. Nobody ever listens to my good ideas. (Reply to this) (Thread)

	not a bad idea... drieuxster 2007-04-25 07:04 pm UTC (link)
	I of course would extend it to the recovery of all Grave Yards - since only Zombies and Tomb Robbers are at all interested in such places... (Reply to this) (Parent)

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drieuxster, 2007-04-25 09:58 pm UTC (Expand)

fool
(Anonymous)
2007-04-25 09:48 pm UTC (link)

so you are saying those that have a diffrent view point then your own is some how wrong and should not have the same fredome as your self. shame on you. i was more then willing and still am to lay down my life for what this country means are you? i for one am a pagan and had to endure the wich hunts that folks like you. get away with in the arm forces i say shame on you and all those that belive like you.

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Re: fool
(Anonymous)
2007-04-25 10:27 pm UTC (link)

> so you are saying those that have a diffrent view point
> then your own is some how wrong

False.

Not just merely "wrong", but EVIL!!

Great Leader Said So.

> and should not have the same fredome as your self.

Verily.

Freedom might allow the dangerous They-Them-Those types to return.

Best not to risk that.

Or 9/11 might happen again.

> i was more then willing and still am
> to lay down my life for what this country means

Q: And what DOES this country mean, that you would so sacrifice?

> i for one am a pagan

Q: In what sense of the word??

(from http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/pagan)

–noun

1. one of a people or community observing a polytheistic religion, as the ancient Romans and Greeks.

2. a person who is not a Christian, Jew, or Muslim.

3. an irreligious or hedonistic person.

–adjective

4. pertaining to the worship or worshipers of any religion that is neither Christian, Jewish, nor Muslim.

5. of, pertaining to, or characteristic of pagans.

6. irreligious or hedonistic.

> and had to endure the wich hunts that folks like you.

During the "Early Modern" period? During the Reformation? During the 18th century witch trials?

The years have been VERY kind to you.

> get away with in the arm forces

Q: What says the chain of command of such practices??

> i say shame on you and all those that belive like you.

Suggestion: Read the passages above OUT LOUD, "and this time with four part harmony and feeling."

(ref: http://www.arlo.net/resources/lyrics/alices.shtml)

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Re: fool

drieuxster
2007-04-25 11:25 pm UTC (link)

Sorry that you feel that you must run under-cover, I can, though, understand the feeling. When I came back to the world the safest place for me was the Gay Community, they did the sheltie head tip about "covert operations" - but then decided that it was probably like "not being out" - and had rules about how one deals with folks in their Special Closet.

If you are a Pagan, be proud of your tradition - IF you can deal with it. I had hoped that noting that the Puzzle Palace is a five sided building, and hence one that is a Pentagon, with five angles, pentangle, would make it clear that I was aiming for a bit over the top here - since we are living in the absurdist age in which we have Mormon Chaplains in the Armed Forces Chaplaincy Corp, and at one time they and the Christian Scientists, were deemed dangerous cults.... We have the added Bonus Add that it is the USN who are issuing Immam's to the USMC - as is the normal arrangement for the USMC - and still americans are freaking out about "muslims"...

What will be really tragic in all of this is IF an actual investigation into the Pat Tillman case shows up that he was 'fragged' because he was not a Pious as those around him, and therefore not being the right type of state sponsored co-religionist, it was OK to frag him...

These are tough times all around for everyone.

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	(Anonymous) 2007-04-26 04:50 pm UTC (link)
	Guess what you cunt, you're on Fundies Say the Darndest Things! Get your nose of a smelly 2000 year old book and get a life. Show some respect for others and maybe they'll respect you. Until then, you're a douchebag whom is sure to burn in hell for intolerence, judging and the like. Jesus was gay anyway, read the Gospel of Mark. (Reply to this) (Thread)

	besides being annon and an idiot drieuxster 2007-04-26 05:06 pm UTC (link)
	What exactly was the point here??? Gosh, it must so be tough in your neighborhood working on how to become the Next Cool Cho playing the famous victimized hero... (Reply to this) (Parent)(Thread)(Expand)

Re: besides being annon and an idiot - (Anonymous), 2007-04-26 07:23 pm UTC (Expand)

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drieuxster, 2007-04-26 09:39 pm UTC (Expand)

Re: besides being annon and an idiot - (Anonymous), 2007-04-26 10:36 pm UTC (Expand)

Re: besides being annon and an idiot - (Anonymous), 2007-04-26 11:03 pm UTC (Expand)

Re: besides being annon and an idiot - (Anonymous), 2007-04-27 12:56 am UTC (Expand)

Re: besides being annon and an idiot - (Anonymous), 2007-04-27 06:19 pm UTC (Expand)

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drieuxster, 2007-04-27 08:46 pm UTC (Expand)

Re: besides being annon and an idiot - (Anonymous), 2007-04-26 07:42 pm UTC (Expand)

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Re: Tsk, tsk! - (Anonymous), 2007-04-26 10:38 pm UTC (Expand)

Re: Tsk, tsk! - (Anonymous), 2007-04-26 10:41 pm UTC (Expand)

Re: Tsk, tsk! - (Anonymous), 2007-04-27 12:54 am UTC (Expand)

	fledgist 2007-04-27 11:25 am UTC (link)
	Drieux is a fundie? Right, and I'm St Augustine of Canterbury. (Reply to this) (Parent)(Thread)(Expand)

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fledgist, 2007-04-27 03:14 pm UTC (Expand)

oh that is GOING to hurt.... -

drieuxster, 2007-04-27 06:08 pm UTC (Expand)

Re: oh that is GOING to hurt.... -

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fledgist, 2007-05-02 01:46 am UTC (Expand)

Got URLs??

mononeuron
2007-04-27 07:27 pm UTC (link)

If you've got the link into the fundy site, pls share.

I went looking for the responses, but failed to locate the entry(s).

In fact, the intolerably slow page load (aka: an entire site on on page) inspired me to trim the fat among my replies on THIS page. (see "oops" elsewhere)

And and speaking to Jesus being gay, you speak as tho "gay is bad".

I encourage you to meet me and mine in The Castro on Halloween (or on Pride Parade Day).

You'll see ZILLLIONS of gay deities in The Castro every Halloween. And Bi. And straight. Maybe a few trans-genedered, and surely quite a few flexibile, indeterminate and/or "other".

The question you wanna ask is whether a gay deity loves vets any less than straight deities love vets.

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	Cunt (Anonymous) 2007-04-26 07:34 pm UTC (link)
	(http://www.fstdt.com/) (Reply to this) (Thread)

	Re: Cunt (Anonymous) 2007-04-26 07:36 pm UTC (link)
	I can agree, and from the looks of it, the asshole who started this thread is probably writing the whole thing in white robes and pointed hood as we speak. I don't see what the big deal is. So what, Pagans have rights. Not everyone is Xian, in fact, 66% of the world isn't, why do they feel they have to control everyone's lives? (Reply to this) (Parent)(Thread)(Expand)

Re: Cunt - (Anonymous), 2007-04-26 08:39 pm UTC (Expand)

Fear and Ignorance
(Anonymous)
2007-04-26 07:41 pm UTC (link)

Fear and Ignorance run rampant, not only in your blog, but in your responses to comments on it.

Have you taken the time to KNOW what you are talking about before you CONDEM it? Most likely NOT! In MY experience this life time, I have found that MOST Pagans know more about the Bible and Chrisitanity than MOSR Christians do. ONE of the reasons that WE are NOT Christian. We look to learn about it in order to understand it, instead of taking it for granted, and JUST believing in it.

MOST Christians this days and age don’t even practice their religion, yet continue to call themselves Christians, because that is the Status Quo of what is acceptable in society or maybe just because their parents followed that religion even if they don’t REALLY follow it themselves. MOST Chrsitians don’t LIVE the teachings of Jesus or Chrsitianity and YET they say that THEY will go to heaven because they BELIEVE in Jesus Christ and all others will go to hell. It is MY personal belief that actions speak louder than words, and in the end, you MUST let your life, and how you lived it, speak for itself.

As for Wicca and the pagan religions being a false religion, our practices go back tens of thousands of years before the birth of Christ. Lets not also forget that the Jews and Romans called Christianity a false religion once upon a time… Persecuting Christians as the Chrsitians are persecuting Pagans now. Remember that two wrongs DON’T make a right.

I would like to point out that Satan or “the devil” is a Christian concept and that Satanists or “devil worshippers” are ALSO Christian. They BELIEVE in God and Jesus AND the devil and CHOOSE to worship the dark side of the Christian faith. But they ARE Christians if they believe in Christian concepts.

Pagans and Wiccans DO NOT belive in Satan or the concept of the devil, therefore we CAN’T worship what we don’t believe in. Some of us, although not all, DO however, believe in God and Jesus and those of us who don’t, believe in the teachings of Jesus, even if we do not believe that he WAS/IS God.

This idea that YOUR religion is the ONLY TRUE religion is arcaic and hypocritical at best. WE don’t believe, or act, in that manner. We believe that everyone has the ability to make a choice and the responsability of living with that choice. We belive that we should RESPECT other’s right to make their own choices. We respect your choice to be a Christian and practice your religion and ONLY ask for the same respect in return.

That said, the ONLY word I can find to describe your attitude and thoughts reflected in your blog and responses to comments is BIGOT! You claim to be a patriot, yet do not believe in upholding the Constitution? Freedoms of race, religion, sexual orientation, choice, etc. are ALL guaranteed to ALL AMERICANS in the Constitution of the United States as Inalienable Civil Rights. To say that YOUR way is the ONLY way is judgemental and pompous. Who do YOU think You are? GOD?

The ONLY victory won with this issues was for FREEDOM of RELIGION! Which in this country Freedom of Religion means ANY religion. We have the right to worship as we see fit JUST as you do, just as ANY religion does. If you don’t believe that, then I suggest you read the 1st Ammendment to the Constitution.

Goddess Bless!

ELISE FISHER
Secretary of The Association of United Pagans
A CA Religious Non-Profit Corporation
http://www.aupagans.org
Taxpayer AND Voter

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	Re: Fear and Ignorance (Anonymous) 2007-04-26 07:44 pm UTC (link)
	Amen and Blessed Be (Reply to this) (Parent)

Re: Fear and Ignorance - (Anonymous), 2007-04-26 09:01 pm UTC (Expand)

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drieuxster, 2007-04-26 09:42 pm UTC (Expand)

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Re: Fear and Ignorance - (Anonymous), 2007-04-26 10:51 pm UTC (Expand)

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drieuxster, 2007-04-27 02:23 am UTC (Expand)

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drieuxster, 2007-04-27 02:15 am UTC (Expand)

Re: Fear and Ignorance - (Anonymous), 2007-05-01 10:33 am UTC (Expand)

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drieuxster, 2007-05-02 10:57 pm UTC (Expand)

	ronebofh 2007-04-27 02:00 am UTC (link)
	It's like an obsessive-compulsive pervert went through the lingerie section at Mervyn's. I've never seen so many panties in a knot. (Reply to this) (Thread)(Expand)

Oh, MAD PROPS!!!

madmerle
2007-04-27 02:52 am UTC (link)

My friend, you said it in spades. I am so giggling now... The rampant puerility herein needed a big dose of levity.

I had been wondering when the day would come when somebody would COMPLETELY misinterpret the highly acerbic and ironic nature of drieuxish rhetoric and go all BAT WONKY. This is a classic case. I know it's not the first time, and it won't be the last.

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drieuxster, 2007-04-27 05:52 pm UTC (Expand)

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mononeuron, 2007-04-27 06:56 pm UTC (Expand)

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snowcalla, 2007-04-28 05:36 am UTC (Expand)

Re: Oh, MAD PROPS!!! -

drieuxster, 2007-04-30 05:34 pm UTC (Expand)

Puerility - (Anonymous), 2007-04-27 06:27 pm UTC (Expand)

STOP!! PLEEEEZE!!! - (Anonymous), 2007-04-27 05:46 am UTC (Expand)

Re: STOP!! PLEEEEZE!!! -

drieuxster, 2007-04-27 05:48 pm UTC (Expand)

speaking of which.... -

drieuxster, 2007-04-27 05:49 pm UTC (Expand)

Re: speaking of which.... -

madmerle, 2007-04-27 06:58 pm UTC (Expand)

Re: speaking of which.... -

drieuxster, 2007-04-27 08:36 pm UTC (Expand)

Depends

mononeuron
2007-04-27 03:33 pm UTC (link)

Plz! DO Stop!

I've been just about peein-in-da-dependes for 3 days laffing out loud at the Idiocracy!

Thanks so much!

Except for Snowcalla, not one thing's been said worth saying on point. (ref: "As for how we treat our veterans")

"Wiccans -- they don't get no respect, no respect at all" (Dangerfield, R., Paraphrased)

"Atheists -- they don't get no respect, no respect at all" (ibid)

"Fundies -- they don't get no respect, no respect at all" (ibid)

The bid-nez on the brutial symbols of christianity vs the harmonious symbols of wicca bears discussion, outside a forum of ridiculing the rediculous.

Likewise, the tenor of tolerance espoused by Ms. Fisher strongly resonates with a long-held view that "freedom is for the thought we despise" (Justice Oliver Wendall HOlmes, Jr). Tolerance of that variety is just simply rePUGnant to those in The Bay Area where the They-Them-Those types are often seen "arm in arm" or (HORRORS!) BOY-HAND-IN-BOY-HAND!!! (eeek!! Evil! Evil! Evil! Help Me Shrub! Outlaw Boy-boy-thingies!) We MUST bomb Canada NOW!!! to save our white christian america! (So so says the poor jew.)

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	(Anonymous) 2007-04-30 09:32 pm UTC (link)
	As A General Rule Educated, Literate Americans Do Not Write Like This, but instead capitalize only the /first/ letter of the sentence. I can't really tell if this is a parody or a serious attack on freedom of religion. (Reply to this) (Thread)(Expand)

	Inquiring Minds NEED to KNOW!! mononeuron 2007-05-01 05:28 pm UTC (link)
	> this is a parody Captain Obvious asks, "Really?" (Reply to this) (Parent)

Technically the Answer is Yes.... -

drieuxster, 2007-05-01 05:42 pm UTC (Expand)

	sasmita 2007-05-31 11:48 pm UTC (link)
	I know this topic is old news... ...but Holy Whiskers of Bast, this is the funniest damn thing I have read in a LONG time. (Reply to this) (Thread)

	why thank you.... drieuxster 2007-06-07 12:34 am UTC (link)
	we do try to work, as the saying goes, for the post surrealist community, since clearly the reality based community is having a long holiday, and the rest of the folks are Completely Wacko'd Out.... (Reply to this) (Parent)

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